What is surprising is the number of different threads that exist from Abraham into Western Europe and the different paths they take. Several different threads are intertwined in the Merovingian families of Francia. Two pass from Egypt through Ireland into either Wales or Scotland. A third line comes directly from the Exilarchs (the leaders of the Jewish community in exile after the Diaspora) in Babylon. This thread goes directly into what is now southern France, where descendants married into the noble families of the region. In addition, I’ve shown lines (with two variants) from Abraham’s Islamic descendants that passes through Spain and into the nobility there and thence into the nobility of Europe.
A Sicambrian-Franks Descent from Abraham to Clovis I
The Sicambrian Franks are now thought to have found their way into the area that is now northern France and lower Germany from farther east. The mention of Arcadia in their history of growth and development gives us a hint of a Greek connection. According to Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and HenryLincoln, in The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail, there is considerable thought that the Sicambrians are a remnant of the Benjamites, the Tribe of Benjamin, one of the lost tribes of Israel. Considering that the Benjamites continued to worship The Goddess Ashera along with yhe God of Israel and that there remain survivals of this tradition in what is now southern France, it’s certainly worth consideration.
Abraham (Abram/(Ibrahim) = Sarah/Sarai bint Haran, Princess
Isaac ibn Abraham = Rebekah bint Bethuel
Jacob (Israel) ibn isaac, King of Goshen = Leah bint Laban
Juda (Judas) ibn Jacob = Tamur
Zarah (Zehrah, Zarah) ben Judah = Electra
Dara/Dardanus, King of Arcadia = Batea “Basia Asia” of Teucri
Erichthonius, King of Arcadia = Astyoche of Arcadia
Tros (Trois) of Arcadia, King of Troy = Callirhoe
Illus (Illyus), King of Troy = Eurydice (Eruidike) of Troy
Laomedan, King of Troy = Placia of Troy
Priam Podarces, High King of Troy = Hecuba (Hecabe) of Phrygia
Helenus of Troy, King of the Scythians
Genger of the Scythians
Franco of the Scythians
Esdron Trojan
Gelio (Gelso Zelis), Trojan
Bosabiliano, Basebelian I, Trojan
Plaserio, Plaserius I, Trojan
Plesron
Eliacor, the Trojan
Gaberiano (Zaberian) the Trojan
Plaserius II, the Trojan
Antenor I, the Trojan
Priam II Trianus, the Trojan
Helenus II Trojan, King of Troy
Plesron II Trojan, King of Troy
Basebelian II Trojan, King of Troy
Alexandre Trojan, King of Troy
Priam III, King of the Cimmerians
Gentilanor of the Cimmerians
Almadius, King of the Cimmerians
Dilulius I, King of the Cimmerians
Helenus III, King of the Cimmerians
Plaserius III, King of the Cimmerians
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Dilulius II (Dilugio), King of the Cimmerians
Marcomir, King of the Cimmerians
Priam IV, King of the Cimmeri
Helenus IV (V), King of the Cimmeri
Antenor I, Prince of the Cimmerians
Marcomir I, King of the Sicambri
Antenor II of the Sicambri, King of the Cimmerians = Cambra
Priamus, King of the Sicambri
Helenus V, King of the Sicambri
Diocles of the Sicambri
Bassanus Magnus, King of the Sicambri
Clodomir I , King of the Sicambri
Nicanor I, King of the Sicambri
Marcomir II, King of the Sicambri
Clodius I, King of the Sicambri
Antenor III, King of the Sicambri
Clodomir II, King of the Sicambri
Merodochus, King of the Sicambri
Cassander of the Sicambri
Anthanius, King of the Sicambri
Francus/Francios, King of the West Franks
Clodius II, King of the Franks
Marcomir III, King of the Franks
Clodomir III, King of the Franks
Antenor IV, King of the Franks
Ratherius, King of the Franks = Grotte, Queen of the Franks
Richemir I, King of the Franks = Ascyla of the Franks
Odomir, King of the Franks
Marcomir of Franks
Clodomir IV, King of the Franks = Athildis, Princess of the Camulod/Britains, daughter of Coel I of Camulod (Colchester), Prince of Siluria
Farabert/Pharibert/Faribert of the Franks
Sunno (Huano, Hunno), King of the Franks
Childeric (Hilderic), King of the Franks
Bartherus, King of the Franks
Clodius III, King of the East Franks
Walter/Gautier, King of the Franks
Dagobert I, King of the East Franks
Clodomir IV of the Franks
Richemir, King of the Franks = Nastila/Hestila
Theodomir, King of the Franks
Clodius V of the Franks
Dagobert of the Salic Franks
Genebald/Genobaud of the Salic Franks
Argotta of the Sicambri, Princess of the East = Pharamond, 1st King of all the Franks
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Clodion “the Long-haired” of Tournai, King of the Salic Franks = Basina I of Thuringia
Merovee = Siegse
Merovee/Meroveus “The Young,” (436 CE – 481 CE), King of the Salian Franks = Meira?
Childeric I, King of the Salian Franks = Basina II Andovera, Queen of Thuringia
Clovis I “the Great,” King of the Franks (abt 467 CE – 511 CE) = Clotilde, daughter of Chilperic II, King of Burgundy
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A Visigothic Connection from Abraham to Pepin of Heristal
The Visigoths, viewed from the pages of our schoolbooks, appeared to have been uneducated boors and nasty barbarians who overran a weakened Roman Empire from time to time. Actually they sacked Rome at one point and carried off a good deal of treasure, possibly including some from the Second Temple in Jerusalem that the Romans had only acquired a few years before. If you took this as literal truth, think of the source: Roman historians. This is a point of view. As more recent research has pointed out amply, the Visigoths were a highly developed culture. They adopted a variant of Christianity known as the Arian “heresy,” (heresy being a pejorative term applied by the Roman Church). This belief did not accept Jesus as divine but instead revered him as a remarkable human. It was at the point when the Roman Church succeeded in converting the Visigothic rulers in Spain to Roman Catholic Christianity that the first sting of what later became The Inquisition was felt in Spain and in the Spanish Marches and Languedoc.
Abraham (Abram/(Ibrahim) = Sarah/Sarai bint Haran, Princess
Isaac ibn Abraham = Rebekah bint Bethuel
Jacob (Israel) ibn isaac, King of Goshen = Leah bint Laban
Juda (Judas) ibn Jacob = Tamur
Zarah (Zehrah, Zarah) ben Judah = Electra
Dara/Dardanus, King of Arcadia = Batea “Basia Asia” of Teucri
Erichthonius, King of Arcadia = Astyoche of Arcadia
Tros (Trois) of Arcadia, King of Troy = Callirhoe
Illus (Illyus) King of Troy = Eurydice (Euridike) of Troy
Tithonius of Troy
Memnon/Munon of Troy
Thor/Tror, King of Thrace
Loridi/Hloritha
Enridi
Vingethor/Vingetheor
Vingener
Moda/Mode
Maji/Magi
Sceaf/Scaef/Seskef
Bedwig/Bedvig of Sceaf
Hwala/Hvala/Hawala/Guala
Hathra/Athra
Itermon/Itormann
Heremod/Heremond
Sceldwa/Skjold/Skjaldun
Beaw/Beaf/Beowa/Bedwa/Bjarr
Taetwa/Tatwa/Tecti
Jat/Geata/Geatwa/Geat
Helmul of Goths
Augis/Argis
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Amal/Amala
Hisarna
Ostrogotha, King of Goths
Hunuil of Goths
Athal of Goths
Achiuf of Goths
Wultwulf of Goths
Walvarans of Goths
Winithar of Ostrogoths
Wandelar, King of the Ostrogoths
Theudimir, King of the Ostrogoths
Theodoric I, King of the Ostrogoths = Audofledis (Audefleda) of the Salian Franks
Arevagni of the Visigoths
Almaric II, King of the Visigoths = Clothilde, daughter of Clovis I, King of
the Franks and Clotilde
Leovigild/Leodigild, King of the Visigoths = Goswinda (Goiswinth/Galswinda) daughter
of Hoamer, son Hunneric King of the Vandals and Eudoxia of Rome, daughter of
Emporer Valentinian III of Rome
Brunhilde (Visigoth) = Siegbert I
Chlodoswintha Meroving = Recared I, King of the Visigoths
Swinthila, King of the Visigoths = Theodora of the Visigoths
Liubigotona/Liuvigotona of the Visigoths = Evrik, King of the Visigoths
Aupais/Elphide/Chalpaida/Alpaide of Spain = Pepin II “the Fat” de Heristal
Charles Martel = Rotrud, Duchess of Austrasia
Pepin III le Bref (the Short) = Bertha “Bigfoot,” princess of Hungary
Charlemagne
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The Desposyni
The term Desposyni is applied to purported descendants of Jesus and his surrounding family, all of whom were of the House of David. Clearly this is an explosive claim in certain circles because it directly threatens the Roman Church’s claim of rule through an Apostolic Succession rather than through inheritance via the House of David. Furthernore it indicates that there were heirs to Jesus’ claim to be the King of the Jews, a claim that has been supported by a number of more-adventursome scholars recently. And the concept that Jesus had a wife/consort and children gives a very different picture, one of a human and one who could well be spiritually a son of God but certainly not physically.
Desposyni and descendants from Abraham Line 1
Abraham = Sarai (Sarah) (Princess) bint Haran
Isaac ibn Abraham = Rebekah bint Betheuel
Jacob ibn Isaac (King of goshen) = Leah bint Laban
Judah (Judas) ibn Jacob = Tamar
Perez (Phares) 1738? BCE of Israel
Hezron (Esron) of Israel
Ram, (Aram) (Prince) of Israel
Aminadab (Amminadab) of Israel
Nashon (Naasson) (the Israelite)
Salmon (Salma) (the Israelite) = Rahab (Rachab)
Boaz = Ruth of Moab
Obed the Ephrathite
Jesse ben Obed
David, King of Judah and Israel = 9th wife of David of Judah and Israel (or Bathsheba)
Nathan ha-David
Mattatha (Mathatha Mattathan)ha- David
Menna (Menam/Menon) ha-David
Melea ha-David
Eliakim ha-David
Jonan (Jonam) ha-David
Joseph ben Jonan ha-David
Judah (Judas/Jude) ben Joseph ha-David
Simeon ben Judah ha-David
Levi ben Simeon ha-David
Matthat/Mathat ben Levi ha-David
Jorim ha-David
Eliazer (Eliezer) ben Jorim ha-David
Jesus (Jose, Joshua) ben Eleazer ha-David
Er (Her) ben Jesus ha-David
Emadam (Helmadan Elmodam) ha-David
Cosam ha-David
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Addi ben Cosam ha-David
Melchi (Melki) ha-David
Neri (Neriah) ha-David = Tamar (of Davidic dynasty)
Salathial (Shealtiel) ha-David
Zorobabel ha-David (aka Sheshbazzar (Zerubbabel) = Esther ha-David
Rhesa
Joanna (m)
Juda
Joseph
Semei
Mattathias
Maath
Naage
Esli
Naum
Amos
Mattathias II (Tobias), Temple Governor = Yalpath
Joseph, Temple Governor
Janna
Melchi, Head of the Sanhedrin
Levi
Matthan
Jacob Heli = Gadat
Joseph = Mary
Jesus (Yehoshua) = Mary Magdalene
Josue del Graal
Aminadab = Eurgen
Catheloys (Castellors)
Manael
Titurel
Frimutel
Boaz (Anfortas)
Frotmund
Pharamond, 1st King of all the Franks = Argotta of the Sicambri, Princess of the East
Franks
Clodion “the Long-haired” of Tournai, King of the Salic Franks = Basina I of Thuringia
Merovee = Siegse
Merovee/Meroveus “The Young,” (436 CE – 481 CE), King of the Salian Franks = Meira?
Childeric I, King of the Salian Franks = Basina II Andovera, Queen of Thuringia
Clovis I “the Great,” King of the Franks (abt 467 CE – 511 CE) = Clotilde, daughter of
Chilperic II, King of Burgundy
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A Variant of the Line from Abraham to David for the Desposyni
Abraham (Abram/(Ibrahim) = Sarah/Sarai bint Haran, Princess
Isaac ibn Abraham = Rebekah bint Bethuel
Jacob (Israel) ibn isaac, King of Goshen = Leah bint Laban
Juda (Judas) ibn Jacob = Tamur
Perez
Hezron
Aram
Amminadab
Nashon
Salmon
Boaz
Obed the Ephrathite = Ruth of Moab
Jesse ben Obed = Abala (Habalith)
David, King of Judah and Israel = 9th wife of David or Bathsheba
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A Variant of the End of the Line from Abraham to Clovis and His Wife Clotilde
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Argotta of the Sicambri, Princess of the East Franks = Pharamond, 1st King of all the
Franks
Fredemundus
Nascien I of Septimania, Prince of Septimania
Celedoin of Septimania
Nascien II of the Septimanian Midi
Chilperic II, King of Burgundy
Clotilde, daughter of Chilperic II, King of Burgundy = Clovis I “the Great,” King of the
Franks (abt 467 CE – 511 CE
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The Desposyni and Descendants of Abraham Line 2
Historians differ on whether this line is valid or not. It depends on whether one
thinks that Joseph of Arimathea was really the second son of Joseph and Mary and thus
carried the title for the second son in the House of David “ha-Rama-theo.” In any case,
there is reasonable conjecture that Joseph ha-Rama-theo was a wealthy tin merchant
who would have visited tin mines in Wales. People in this group traveled more extensively
than was once believed.
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Jacob Heli = Gadat
Joseph = Mary
Joseph ha-Rama-Theo = Anna
Anna (Enygeus) ben Joseph = Bran the Blessed of Siluria, Archdruid of Siluria
Beli Ealim/Heli
Avallach/Abalech/Evelake
Eugein (Iougen, Owain)
Brotjgieom (Brithwein, Brychwn)
Duvun (Dwfnn, Dwfwn)
Onwedd/Onmum/Onum/Omwydd
Anguerit (Enewerydd/Anweryd)
Angoulooyb/Angolait/Amguloi
Gur Dumn/Gorddwfn/Gordwfn)
Dumn (Dwfn/Dyfn)
Guiocein/Gwrgain
Cein (Cain/Kain)
Tegid Pies Rudawg/Tacit
Patern Pesrut (Padarn Pesrud)
Octern (Edern, Edeyrn)
Cunedda Wledig of Manau
Einan Yrth (Enniaun Girt)
Cadwallan Llaw Hir “the Longhanded”
Maelgwyn Gwynned, Regulus of Gwynned
Rhun, Regulus of Gwynned
Beli, Regulus of Gwynned
Iago (Jacob), Regulus of Gwynned
Cadfan, King of Gwynned = Acha
Cadwallon II of Gwynned
Cadwaladr the Blessed, King of Gwynedd 654-664 = Agatha?
Edwar/Idwal, King of Gwynned
Rhodri Molwynog, King of Gwynned
Cynan Dindaethwy = Matilda of Flint
Eskyll = Merwyn verch Gwiard
Rhodri Mawr ferch Merwyn = Angharad, daughter of Meruig
Anarawd
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Idwal Foel, the Bald = Avendreg of Powys
Meyric, son of Idwal
Idwal, son of Meyric
Iago, son of Idwal
Cynan, son of Iago
Gryffud/Griffith son of Cynan, Prince of North Wales = Ankaret/Angharat of Tegaing/
Tegaingl, daughter of Owain ap Edwin
Owain I Gwyned = Gladys (marriage outside church)
Iorwerth = Marared (Margaret) ferch Madog of Powys, daughter of Madog ap Marredudd,
ruler of Powys
Llewellyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales = Joan of England, daughter of King John I,
Lackland
three children: Marered/Margaret, Angharad, Helen. Marered = (1) Sir Walter de
Clifford and (2) John de Braose (Broiuze). Angharad = Maelgwyn Fychan, Lord of
Cardigan in Ayron.
Llewellyn ap Iorwerth also married Tangwystl Rhos
one child, Gladys Dhu = Ralph de Mortimer d. 6 Aug 1246
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The Desposyni and Descendants of Abraham Line 3
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See in bold in Line 1 and follow up to Abraham
Jacob Heli = Gadat
Joseph = Mary
Joseph ha-Rama-Theo = Anna
Anna (Enygeus) ben Joseph = Bran the Blessed of Siluria, Archdruid of Siluria
Penardun = Marius/Meruig/Meric, King of Siluria
Coel I of Camulod (Colchester), Prince of Siluria = N. N., daughter of Cylin, King of
Siluria
Lieffer (Lucius) Mawr, King of Britain = Gladys “the Elder” verch Eurgen, daughter of
Eurgen/Eugein ap Marius
Cadwalladr of Britain
Frigg/Friga of Asaland = Odin/Wodin of Asgaard (Asia)
Skjold Helithra, King of the Danes
Fridleif Skjoldson
Frodi Fridleifsson
Fridleif Frodasson
Havar Fridleifsson
Frodi Havarsson of Denmark
Vermund Frodasson of Denmark
Olaf Vermundsson of Denmark
Frodi Olafsson of Denmark
Fridleif Frodasson of Denmark
Frodi Fridleifsson of Denmark
Halfdan Frodasson of Denmark
Hroar Halfdansson of Denmark
Valdar Hrorasson = Hildis, Princess of the Vandals
Harold Valdarsson
Halfdan Haroldsson, King of Sweden
Ivar Halfdansson, King of Lethra
Aud Ivarsdotter = Radbard Radbardsson, King of Garderidge (Russia)
Randver Radbardsson
Sigurd Ranversson = Aldhild, Gandolfdotter
Ragnar Sigurdsson, Danish King at Lethra = Aslaug, daughter of Sigurd Fafnisban
Bjorn Ragnarsson, Swedish King at Uppsala
Erik Bjornsson
Edmund Eriksson
Erik Edmundsson
Bjorn (Bijorn) “a Haugi” (the Old), King at Uppsala
Eric Segersall (the Victorous), King of Sweden and Denmark = Sigrid (Starrade) the
Proud, daughter of Skoglar Toste
Olaf III “Skotkonung”, King of Sweden = Agnes of the Obotrites, daughter Mieceslas III,
King of the Obotrites
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Ingegerd, Princess of Sweden = Jaroslav I Wladimirowwitsch, Grand Prince of Kiev
Anna Agnes Yaroslavna (Jaroslawna) = Henry I, King of France
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Many other permutations of this line exist , incorporating alternate siblings of persons shown here.
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Line From Abraham and King David through Egypt, through Ireland, into Wales and England
This line is traced by various authors in “speculative history” and in oral tradition. In addition to providing a connection between Israel and Egypt in terms of belief systems, it shows a path for the transmission of knowledge through early Spain to Ireland and thence to Wales and into England.
Abraham = Sarai (Sarah) (Princess) bint Haran
Isaac ibn Abraham = Rebakah bint Betheuel
Jacob ibn Isaac (King of goshen) = Leah bint Laban
Judah (Judas) ibn Jacob = Tamar
Perez (Phares) 1738? BCE of Israel
Hezron (Esron) of Israel
Ram, (Aram) (Prince) of Israel
Aminadab (Amminadab) of Israel
Nashon (Naasson) (the Israelite)
Salmon (Salma) (the Israelite) = Rahab (Rachab)
Boaz = Ruth of Moab
Obed
Jesse
David, King of Judah, King of Israel = Bathsheba
Solomon ben David
Roboam (Rehoboam) ha-David, King of Judea of Israel
Abia/Abijah ha David, King of Judea or Israel = Maacah
Asa (Asaph) ha-David, King of Judea= Azubah, Queen of Judea
Jehosapat/Josaphat, King of Judah
Jehoram (Joram) ha-David, King of Judah
Ozias (Ahaziah Ochozias) ha-David, King of Judah
Joash ha-David, King of Judah
Amaziah (Amasias) ha-David, King of Judah
Uzziah (Azariah), ha-David, King of Judah
Joatham (Jotham) ha-David, King of Judah
Ahaz (Achaz) ha-David, King of Judah = Abijah of Israel
Ezechias (Hezekiah) ha David, King of Judah
Manasses ha-David, King of Judah
Amon ha-David, King of Judah
Josias/Josiah ha-David = Hamutal (Hamnutal) bat Jeremiah mi-Libnah, daughter of
Jeremiah “the Prophet”
Zedekiah (Mattaniah) ha-David of Judah
Tamar (Tephi) of Judah = Heremon Mac Miled, 2nd Monarch of Ireland, aka Kirsehmon.
His line can be traced back to Noah. His mother was Scota, Princess of Egypt.
Irial (Iarel Eurialus) Faidh (Faith) Mac Eremoin, High King of Ireland
Ethrail/Eithriall Mac Iarel Faith of Ireland
Follac Mac Ethrel of Ireland
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Tighernmas (Tighearnmhas) Mac Etherel
Eiobiothad Mac Tigernmas, Prince of Ireland
Smiorgall Mac Enboth, Prince of Ireland
Fiachu Labrainn (Flacha Labhrin) Mac Smirgoll, 18th Monarch of Ireland
Aeneas (Aengus Aonghus) Olmucaidh Mac Fiachach, 20th Monarch of Ireland
Maen Mac Aengusa, Prince of Ireland
Rothectaid Rigderg, Mac Moen, 22nd Monarch of Ireland
Deman (Dian Dein Den) Mac Rothectaid, Prince of Ireland
Sirna Sirsaeglac Mac Dian, 34th Monarch of Ireland
Olioll Ochaoin Fionn Fail, Prince of Ireland
Giallchade, 37th Monarch of Ireland
Nuahhas (Nuadha) Fionn Fail, 39th Monarch of Ireland
Aedham (Aodhan) Glas, Prince of Ireland
Simon (Simeon ) Breach, 44th Monarch of Ireland
Murchad (Muirradhach) Balgrach Mac Simon, 46th Monarch of Ireland
Fiacha (Fiachaidh) Folgrach, 55th Monarch of Ireland
Eochy Buadech Mac Duach = Tamar Tephi ha-David
Augaine Mor Mac Echach
Cobthach Caol Breagh, 69th Monarch of Ireland
Melghe Molbthach/Meilage, 71st Monarch of Ireland
Irereo (Iarraingleo/Jaran) Gleofathach Fatach/Gleoathach, 74th Monarch of Ireland
Connla (Conla, Conla) Cruaich, 76th Monarch of Ireland
Oiloilla (Ailill) Caisfhiaclach, 77th Monarch of Ireland
Eochaid/Eochairdh Foltleathan/Ailtle Athair , 79th Monarch of Ireland
Aonghus/Aengus TuirImheach/Tuirbheach Teamrach (Mac Fer?), 81st Monarch of
Ireland = N. N. ingen Aengusa
Fiachra/Fiachu Firmara Mac Aengusa
Ailill Erann Mac Fiachach
Feradach/Feredaig (Vere-daigh) Mac Ailella
Forga Mac Feradaig
Maine Mor Mac Forga
Airndil Mac Maine
Rothrer Mac Airndll
Trer Mac Rothrer
Roshin Mac Trer (O’Haongus)
Sin Mac Roshin
Ecdach Mac Sin
Deithsin Mac Echdach
Dlutach (Dluthach) Mac Deitsin
Daire Mac Dlutach
Fiatach Finn Mac Daire = Fedelm Derg ingen Tuathal 2 sons
Ogamuin (Ogaman) Mac Firtaig
Findchada Ogamuin
Imchatha/Imchan Mac Finchada = Moen ingen Conn
Feargusa Dubedtach Mac Imchatha, 114th Monarch of Ireland
Aengus/Oengus Finn Mac Feargusa Dubdetaig, King of Uladh
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Lorc Mac Aengusa, King of Ulster and Dal Fiatach
Indiu ingen Ludach = Niall Noigiallarch, King of Ireland 2 children
Fiacha mac Neill
Eochaid Finn Calcan Mac Fiachach
Donn Cathach Mac Echach
Bran Mac Donn
Dunchad Mac Bran
Ammchaid Mac Dunchad
Dunchad Mac Ammchaid
Mael Muaid Mac Dunchad, Lord in Offaly (eponym of Ua Maoil Mhuaidh (O’Molloy)
of Fir Cell)
Donnchad Mac Merl Muaid
Lorcan Mac Donnchad
Buadach Mac Lorcan
Mael Muaid Mac Buadach
Lorcan Mac Mael Muaid
Gilla Brigte (Brighid) Mac Lorcan O’Mulloy
Mor ingen Gilla = Tiege (Terence) O’Brien, son of Brian Boru
Toirrdelbach (Tirdelvagh: I) O’Brien, 178th Monarch of Ireland = Dirborgaill ingen Taidg
of Ossory
Muirchertach (Murtagh) O’Brien, 180th Monarch of Ireland = Dubchoglaig ingen
Dairmit
Lafracoth (Lafracota) O’Brien of Munster = Arhulph ne Montgomery of Pembroke
Alice Montgomery = Maurice Fitz Gerald
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Numerous descents
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Line From Abraham and King David through Egypt, through Ireland, into Scotland
Abraham = Sarai (Sarah) (Princess) bint Haran
Isaac ibn Abraham = Rebakah bint Betheuel
Jacob ibn Isaac (King of goshen) = Leah bint Laban
Judah (Judas) ibn Jacob = Tamar
Perez (Phares) 1738? BCE of Israel
Hezron (Esron) of Israel
Ram, (Aram) (Prince) of Israel
Aminadab (Amminadab) of Israel
Nashon (Naasson) (the Israelite)
Salmon (Salma) (the Israelite) = Rahab (Rachab)
Boaz = Ruth of Moab
Obed
Jesse
David, King of Judah, King of Israel = Bathsheba
Solomon ben David
Roboam (Rehoboam) ha-David, King of Judea of Israel
Abia/Abijah ha David, King of Judea or Israel = Maacah
Asa (Asaph) ha-David, King of Judea= Azubah, Queen of Judea
Jehosapat/Josaphat, King of Judah
Jehoram (Joram) ha-David, King of Judah
Ozias (Ahaziah Ochozias) ha-David, King of Judah
Joash ha-David, King of Judah
Amaziah (Amasias) ha-David, King of Judah
Uzziah (Azariah), ha-David, King of Judah
Joatham (Jotham) ha-David, King of Judah
Ahaz (Achaz) ha-David, King of Judah = Abijah of Israel
Ezechias (Hezekiah) ha David, King of Judah
Manasses ha-David, King of Judah
Amon ha-David, King of Judah
Josias/Josiah ha-David = Hamutal (Hamnutal) bat Jeremiah mi-Libnah, daughter of
Jeremiah “the Prophet”
Zedekiah (Mattaniah) ha-David of Judah
Tamar (Tephi) of Judah = Heremon Mac Miled, 2nd Monarch of Ireland, aka Kirsehmon.
His line can be traced back to Noah. His mother was Scota, Princess of Egypt.
Irial (Iarel Eurialus) Faidh (Faith) Mac Eremoin, High King of Ireland
Ethrail/Eithriall Mac Iarel Faith of Ireland
Follac Mac Ethrel of Ireland
Tighernmas (Tighearnmhas) Mac Etherel
Eiobiothad Mac Tigernmas, Prince of Ireland
Smiorgall Mac Enboth, Prince of Ireland
Fiachu Labrainn (Flacha Labhrin) Mac Smirgoll, 18th Monarch of Ireland
Aeneas (Aengus Aonghus) Olmucaidh Mac Fiachach, 20th Monarch of Ireland
Maen Mac Aengusa, Prince of Ireland
Rothectaid Rigderg, Mac Moen, 22nd Monarch of Ireland
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Deman (Dian Dein Den) Mac Rothectaid, Prince of Ireland
Sirna Sirsaeglac Mac Dian, 34th Monarch of Ireland
Olioll Ochaoin Fionn Fail, Prince of Ireland
Giallchade, 37th Monarch of Ireland
Nuahhas (Nuadha) Fionn Fail, 39th Monarch of Ireland
Aedham (Aodhan) Glas, Prince of Ireland
Simon (Simeon ) Breach, 44th Monarch of Ireland
Murchad (Muirradhach) Balgrach Mac Simon, 46th Monarch of Ireland
Fiacha (Fiachaidh) Folgrach, 55th Monarch of Ieland
Eochy Buadech Mac Duach = Tamar Tephi ha-David
Augaine Mor Mac Echach
Cobthach Caol Breagh, 69th Monarch of Ireland
Melghe Molbthach/Meilage, 71st Monarch of Ireland
Irereo (Iarraingleo/Jaran) Gleofathach Fatach/Gleoathach, 74th Monarch of Ireland
Connla (Conla, Conla) Cruaich, 76th Monarch of Ireland
Oiloilla (Ailill) Caisfhiaclach, 77th Monarch of Ireland
Eochaid/Eochairdh Foltleathan/Ailtle Athair , 79th Monarch of Ireland
Aonghus/Aengus TuirImheach/Tuirbheach Teamrach (Mac Fer?), 81st Monarch of
Ireland = N. N. ingen Aengusa
Fiachra/Fiachu Firmara Mac Aengusa
Ailill Erann Mac Fiachach
Feradach/Feredaig (Vere-daigh) Mac Ailella
Forga Mac Feradaig
Maine Mor Mac Forga
Airndil Mac Maine
Rothrer Mac Airndll
Trer Mac Rothrer
Roshin Mac Trer (O’Haongus)
Sin Mac Roshin
Dedad Mac Sin
Iar Mac Dedad
Ailill Anglonnach Mac Iar
Eogan (Eoghan) Mac Ailella (O’Haongus)
Eterscel (Etercel) Mac Eogan
Conaire (I)
Cairpre (Cairbre) Finn Mor Mac Conaire
Daire Dornmor Mac Cairpre
Cairpre (Cairbre) Crommchenn Mac Daire
Lugaid (Lughaidh) Allathach Mac Cairpre
Mug Lama (Modha) Mac Lugaid
Conaire (II) Mac Moga Lama
Eochaid (Eochaidh) Riada Mac Conaire
Fiachra Cathmail Mac Eochaid
Eochair Antoit Mac Fiachre
Achir Cirre Mac Echach
Finn Fiacc Mac Achir
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Cruithluithe Mac Finn
Senchormac Mac Cruithluithe
Fedelmid Ruamnach Mac Senchormac
Aengus Buiding (Buiaidnech) Mac Feideilmid
Fedelmid Aislingish Mac Angusa
Aengus (Aohgnus) Fert Mac Feideilmid, possibly Prince of Ireland
Eochaid Munrevar (Muinremur), King of Irish Dalriada
Erc/Ercc of Dal n’Araide, King of Irish Dalriada = Misi/Mist
Fergus Mor, King of Dalriada
Domangart = Feldelm (Fedelmia) Foltchain, Queen of Dalriada
Gabran, King of Dalriadan Scots = Lluan, daughter of Prince Brychan II of Manau and
Ingenach, Princess of Strathclyde
Aedan (Aldanus) Mac Grabran, King of Dalriada = Igerna del Acqs
Domnall (Donald) Brec (Breck), King of Dalriada
Domangart
Eochaid II King of Argyll/Dalriada = Spondana of the Picts
Eochaid Angbaid Mac Echach of Argyll
Aed/Aid/Aedh Find Mac Echdach of Aryll Finn, King of Dalriada
Eochaid IV Mac Aeda Argyll = Unuisticc of Fortrenn
Alpin, King of Scots/King of Kintyre = N. N. of Picts, Princess of Picts
Kenneth I/Cinead I MacAlpin I, King of Scots and Picts
Causantin/Constantine I, King of Scots
Donald II/Domnall Mac Causantin, King of Scots
Malcolm (Mael-Coluim) I Mac Domnail, King of Scots
Kenneth II (Cináed) mac Mael-Coluim), King of Scots = N. N. of Leinster
Malcolm II/Mael-Coluim II, Mac Cineada, King of Scots = Aelfigu
Bethoc, Princess of Scots, heiress = Crinan, Thane of Atholl
Donnchad/Duncan I, King of Scots = Sibyl/Suthen Fitz Siward of Northumbria, Danish
Jarl of Northumbria
Malcolm III Canmore (Caenmore) King of Scots = St. Margeret “Aetheling,” Princess of
England
…
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Lines from Abraham and David through Makhir/Theodoric of Toulouse
This line was not widely known until the Web gave it visibility. It is the result of some excellent research done by Arthur J. Zuckerman and published in the book A Jewish Princedom in Feudal France 768-900, New York: Columbia University Press, 1972.
Many permutations of lines from Makhir run through all of the European royal families and early American colonists, especially those in New England. Anyone who is descended from the early Plantagenets has them.
There are two possible explanations for the ancestry of Makhir. I give Zuckerman’s first, which indicates that Makhir came either directly from Babylonia or was the son of a man who came to Spain from Babylonia. The second is that Makhir was actually of Merovingian heritage. It is possible that were Merovingians who were practicing Jews in Septimania. Septimania had a large Jewish population, much of which was descended from people who had settled there before the Diaspora. Where did they go? When the Roman Church began to persecute Jews in France in the early days of the Inquisition, some Jews moved to Italy and others to Spain until they were ultimately driven out of Spain. A great many Jews were slaughtered right along with everyone else in the Albigensian Crusade. The crusaders killed everyone, saying “God will know his own.” Some people became Crypto-Jews, that is, they outwardly converted to Christianity but privately maintained their Jewish faith and practices. Others left France and moved into what is now Germany and became a part of the Ashkenazic community there.
Line 1 from Abraham and King David through Makhir/Theodoric of Toulouse,
Exilarch in the Jewish Kingdom of Septimania, tracing a route into Babylon
Abraham = Sarai (Sarah) (Princess) bint Haran
Isaac ibn Abraham = Rebakah bint Betheuel
Jacob ibn Isaac (King of goshen) = Leah bint Laban
Judah (Judas) ibn Jacob = Tamar
Perez (Phares) 1738? BCE of Israel
Hezron (Esron) of Israel
Ram, (Aram) (Prince) of Israel
Aminadab (Amminadab) of Israel
Nashon (Naasson) (the Israelite)
Salmon (Salma) (the Israelite) = Rahab (Rachab)
Boaz = Ruth of Moab
Obed
Jesse
David, King of Judah, King of Israel = Bathsheba
Solomon ben David
Roboam (Rehoboam) ha-David, King of Judea of Israel
Abia/Abijah ha David, King of Judea or Israel = Maacah
Asa (Asaph) ha-David, King of Judea= Azubah, Queen of Judea
Jehosapat/Josaphat, King of Judah
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Jehoram (Joram) ha-David, King of Judah
Ozias (Ahaziah Ochozias) ha-David, King of Judah
Joash ha-David, King of Judah
Amaziah (Amasias) ha-David, King of Judah
Uzziah (Azariah), ha-David, King of Judah
Joatham (Jotham) ha-David, King of Judah
Ahaz (Achaz) ha-David, King of Judah = Abijah of Israel
Ezechias (Hezekiah) ha David, King of Judah
Manasses ha-David, King of Judah
Amon ha-David, King of Judah
Josias/Josiah ha-David = Hamutal (Hamnutal) bat Jeremiah mi-Libnah, daughter of
Jeremiah “the Prophet”
Eliakim ha-David, King of Judah = Nehusta of Jerusalem
Jeconian/Jehioachin/Jechoniah ha-David
Pediah (shealtiel, Salathiel) ha-David
Zerubabbel/Zorobabel ha-David
Haniniah ha-David
Jeshiah ha-David
Rephiah ha-David
Arnan ha-David
Obadiah ha-David
Shecaniah ha-David
Shemiah ha-David
Neriah ha-David
Elioinai ha-David
Akkub ha-David = N. N. bat Hizkiah ha-David
Johanen ha-David
Shephat ha-David
Hanan (Anani) ha-David = N. N. bat Abba Arikha
Nathan (I) ’Ukba ha-David
Nehemiah (I) ha David
’Uqba (II) ben Nehemiah ha-David
Abba Mari ha-David
Nathan II (Kahani I) ha-David
Zutra ben Nathan ha-David
Kahana ben Zutra ha-David
Huna VI ben Kahana ha-David Exilarch at Babylon
Zutra/Ahunai ben Huna ha-David
Huna/hunai ben Zutra ha-David
Kafnai (Hofnai) ha-David, Exilarch at Babylon
Bustani/Mustani ben Hanina David, Exilarch at Babylon
Hanini ben Bustani
Nehemiah/Nechimiah ben Hanini David
Natronai/Nafronai ben Nehemiah ha-David
Haninai ben Natronai ha-David
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Makhir/Theodoric (Thierry, Aymeri) of Toulouse, King of the Jews at Narbonne =
Auda, daughter of Charles Martel and Rotrud
William (Isaac/Nathan) Narbonee David of Gellone, 2nd Count of Toulouse = Gilbour of Hornbach
Bernard Naso David Count of Autun, Margrave of Septimania = Dhoude
Caroling of Gascony, daughter of Charlemagne and Hildegarde of Linzgau
Roselinde (Regelinde) of Septimania David, heiress = Wulgrim, Count of Agen
William I of Perigord, Count of Perigord and Agen = Regelinde of Neustria
Emme of Perigord = Boso I, Count de la Marche
Adalbert I, count of the Haute Marche and Perigord = Almode of Limoges
Bernard I of the Haute Marche = Amilie, Countess of Aubnay
Almode/Almodis de la Haute Marche = Pons II, count of Toulouse, Albi and Dijon
Almode had children from three husbands
William IV, Count of Toulouse = Emma de Mortain, daughter of Robert de Mortain, Earl
of Cornwall and Moreton and Maud/Matilda de Montgomery
Philippa (Matilda/Maud), Countess of Toulouse = Guillaume VII of Poitou, Duke of
Aquitaine
Guillaume X, Duke of Aquitaine = Eleanor de Chasterault de la Rouchefoucauld
Eleanor of Aquitaine, Princess of Aquitaine = Henry II Plantagenet, King of England
…
A number of permutations are available along this line, both before and after Eleanor of
Aquitaine.
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Line 2 from Abraham and King David through Makhir/Theodoric of Toulouse,
Exilarch in the Jewish Kingdom of Septimania ,Tracing a Merovingian Route from
the Desposyni
Abraham (Abram/(Ibrahim) = Sarah/Sarai bint Haran, Princess
Isaac ibn Abraham = Rebekah bint Bethuel
Jacob (Israel) ibn isaac, King of Goshen = Leah bint Laban
Judah (Judas) ibn Jacob = Tamar
Perez (Phares) 1738? BCE of Israel
Hezron (Esron) of Israel
Ram, (Aram) (Prince) of Israel
Aminadab (Amminadab) of Israel
Nashon (Naasson) (the Israelite)
Salmon (Salma) (the Israelite) = Rahab (Rachab)
Boaz = Ruth of Moab
Obed the Ephrathite
Jesse ben Obed
David, King of Judah and Israel = 9th wife of David of Judah and Israel (or Bathsheba)
Nathan ha-David
Mattatha (Mathatha Mattathan)ha- David
Menna (Menam/Menon) ha-David
Melea ha-David
Eliakim ha-David
Jonan (Jonam) ha-David
Joseph ben Jonan ha-David
Judah (Judas/Jude) ben Joseph ha-David
Simeon ben Judah ha-David
Levi ben Simeon ha-David
Matthat/Mathat ben Levi ha-David
Jorim ha-David
Eliazer (Eliezer) ben Jorim ha-David
Jesus (Jose, Joshua) ben Eleazer ha-David
Er (Her) ben Jesus ha-David
Emadam (Helmadan Elmodam) ha-David
Cosam ha-David
Addi ben Cosam ha-David
Melchi (Melki) ha-David
Neri (Neriah) ha-David = Tamar (of Davidic dynasty)
Salathial (Shealtiel) ha-David
Zorobabel ha-David (aka Sheshbazzar (Zerubbabel) = Esther ha-David
Rhesa
Joanna (m)
Juda
Joseph
Semei
Mattathias
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Maath
Naage
Esli
Naum
Amos
Mattathias II (Tobias), Temple Governor = Yalpath
Joseph, Temple Governor
Janna
Melchi, Head of the Sanhedrin
Levi
Matthan
Jacob Heli = Gadat
Joseph = Mary
Jesus (Yehoshua) = Mary Magdalene, High Priestess of Dan
Josue del Graal
Aminadab = Eurgen (both descendants of Abraham and David via the Desposyni)
Catheloys (Castellors)
Manael
Titurel
Frimutel
Boaz (Anfortas)
Frotmund
Pharamond of the Franks, 1st King of all the Franks = Argotta of the Sicambri. Princess
of East Franks (also a descendant of Abraham, through the Desposyni)
Clodiun “the Long-haired” of Tournai, King of the Salic Franks = Basina I of Thuringia
Merovee = Siegse
Merovee/Meroveus “the Young”, King of the Salic Franks = Meira
Childeric I Meroving, King of the Salian Franks
Clovis I/Chlodovech “The Great”, King of the Franks
Clothaire I, King of Soissons
Chilperic I, King of Neustria = Fredegund/Fredegonde
Clothaire II, King of Neustria
Dagobert I “the Great” of Austrasia, King of the Franks
Siegbert II, King of Austrasia = Immachilde/Chimnechild of Swabia/Burgundy
Dagobert II, King of Austrasia = Gisla de Razès
Sigisbert III/IV/I Meroving, Comte de Razès
Sigebert IV/V/II “The Hermit Prince”, Comte de Razès
Makhir/Theodoric (Thierry, Aymeri) of Toulouse, King of the Jews at Narbonne =
Auda, daughter of Charles Martel and Rotrud
William (Isaac/Nathan) Narbonee David of Gellone, 2nd Count of Toulouse = Gilbour
of Hornbach
Bernard Naso David Count of Autun, Margrave of Septimania = Dhoude Caroling of
Gascony, daughter of Charlemagne and Hildegarde of Linzgau
Roselinde (Regelinde) of Septimania David, heiress = Wulgrim, Count of Agen
William I of Perigord, Count of Perigord and Agen = Regelinde of Neustria
Emme of Perigord = Boso I, Count de la Marche
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Adalbert I, count of the Haute Marche and Perigord = Almode of Limoges
Bernard I of the Haute Marche = Amilie, Countess of Aubnay
Almode/Almodis de la Haute Marche = Pons II, count of Toulouse, Albi and Dijon
Almode had children from three husbands
William IV, Count of Toulouse = Emma de Mortain, daughter of Robert de Mortain, Earl
of Cornwall and Moreton and Maud/Matilda de Montgomery
Philippa (Matilda/Maud), Countess of Toulouse = Guillaume VII of Poitou, Duke of
Aquitaine
Guillaume X, Duke of Aquitaine = Eleanor de Chasterault de la Rouchefoucauld
Eleanor of Aquitaine, Princess of Aquitaine = Henry II Plantagenet, King of England
…
A number of permutations are available along this line, both before and after Eleanor of
Aquitaine.
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Lines from Abraham (Abram) to Muslims in Spain and into European Royalty
There has been a certain amount of conjecture about whether or not Isabel/Zaida,
Maria, Ximena (shown in bold below) was actually the mother of Theresa of Castile.
The conjecture has become more accepted recently, especially when a Latin scholar
actually read the documents.
Line 1 from Abraham to Muslims in Spain etc.
Abraham (Abram) = Hagar, the Egyptian
Ishmael (Isma’il) = Ra’la bint Mudad
Nebit (Nebajoth) ibn Ishmael
Yashjub ibn Nabit
Ya’rub ibn Yashjub
Nahur/Nuhur ibn Ya’rub
Mugawwam ibn Nahur
Udad ibn Mugwwam
Adnam/Adnan ibn Idad
Ma’add ibn Adnan
Nizar ibn Ma’add
Mudar (Modhar) ibn Nizar = Al Riyab
Ilyas ibn Mudhar = Layla bani Khindif Codhaite
Amr Mudrika = Salma
Khuzayma ibn Mudrika = Hind ‘Usana
Kinawa ibn Khuzayama = Barra
Quays al-Nadr = Ikrisha
Malik ibn Al-Nadr = Jandala
Fihr Quraysh (Quraish) = Layla
Ghalil of Ghalib ibn Fihr = Atika
Lu’ayy ibn Ghalib/Ghalil = Mawiya
Kab ibn Lu’ayy = Makhshiya
Murra ibn Kab = Hind
Kilab/Kalab ibn Murra = Fatima
Qusayy Zaid “Munjammi”, Gov. of Mecca = Hubba/Hobba bint Holeil, Princess of the
Khozaites
Abd al-Manaf al Mujira
Hasham al’ Muttalib = Atika of the Bani Cays Aylan
Abd al-Mattalib/Muttalib Shayba al Hamd = Fatima bint ‘Amr of Makhzum
‘Abd Manaf abu Talib ibn Al-Muttalib = Fatima bint Ashar ibn Hashim
Ali ben Abu Talib/ibn Abi Talif, 4th Caliph in Iraq = Fatima bint Amr
Al- Hasan al- Sibt = Jada bint al-Ash’ath
Husayn
Zahra = Abu Farisi of al-Hira
Naim of al-Lakhmi
Itaf ibn Ma’im
‘Amr ibn Itaf
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Aslan ibn ’Amr
Abbad ibn Aslan
Quara’is ibn Abbad
Isma’il ibn Quara’is, Iman of Seville = N. N., daughter if Isma’il Al-Mansur, 3rd Caliph
of Egypt
Muhammad I of Seville (prosperous land owner and local judge)
Muhammad II, King of Seville = N. N. of the Balereac Isles
Muhammad III, King of Seville = Beatrice of Aquitaine, daughter of Count William VI
(VII) of Aquitaine
Isabel (Zaida, Maria, Ximena), Princess of Seville = Alfonso VI “the Brave” King of
Castile, Navarre and Leon
Theresa of Castile and Leon = Henry I, Count of Burgundy and Portugal
Alfonso I Henriques, first king of Portugal = Maud/Matilda, Countess of Savoy
…
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Line 2 from Abraham to Muslims in Spain via Muhammad the Prophet etc.
There has been a certain amount of conjecture about whether or not Isabel/Zaida,
MHaria, Ximena (shown in bold below) was actually the mother of Theresa of Castile.
The conjecture has become more accepted recently.
Abraham (Abram) = Hagar, the Egyptian
Ishmael (Isma’il) = Ra’la bint Mudad
Nebit (Nebajoth) ibn Ishmael
Yashjub ibn Nabit
Ya’rub ibn Yashjub
Nahur/Nuhur ibn Ya’rub
Mugawwam ibn Nahur
Udad ibn Mugwwam
Adnam/Adnan ibn Idad
Ma’add ibn Adnan
Nizar ibn Ma’add
Mudar (Modhar) ibn Nizar = Al Riyab
Ilyas ibn Mudhar = Layla bani Khindif Codhaite
Amr Mudrika = Salma
Khuzayma ibn Mudrika = Hind ‘Usana
Kinawa ibn Khuzayama = Barra
Quays al-Nadr = Ikrisha
Malik ibn Al-Nadr = Jandala
Fihr Quraysh (Quraish) = Layla
Ghalil of Ghalib ibn Fihr = Atika
Lu’ayy ibn Ghalib/Ghalil = Mawiya
Kab ibn Lu’ayy = Makhshiya
Murra ibn Kab = Hind
Kilab/Kalab ibn Murra = Fatima
Qusayy Zaid “Munjammi”, Gov. of Mecca = Hubba/Hobba bint Holeil, Princess of the
Khozaites
Adb-al-Uzza
Asad
Khuwailid
Khadiya Quarashi = Muhammad, the Prophet
Fatima bint ‘Amr = Ali ben Abu Talib/ibn Abi Talif, 4th Caliph in Iraq
Al- Hasan al- Sibt = Jada bint al-Ash’ath
Husayn
Zahra = Abu Farisi of al-Hira
Naim of al-Lakhmi
Itaf ibn Ma’im
‘Amr ibn Itaf
Aslan ibn ’Amr
Abbad ibn Aslan
Quara’is ibn Abbad
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Isma’il ibn Quara’is, Iman of Seville = N. N., daughter if Isma’il Al-Mansur, 3rd Caliph
of Egypt
Muhammad I of Seville (prosperous land owner and local judge)
Muhammad II, King of Seville = N. N. of the Balereac Isles
Muhammad III, King of Seville = Beatrice of Aquitaine, daughter of Count William VI
(VII) of Aquitaine
Isabel (Zaida, Maria, Ximena), Princess of Seville = Alfonso VI “the Brave” King of
Castile, Navarre and Leon
Theresa of Castile and Leon = Henry I, Count of Burgundy and Portugal
Alfonso I Henriques, first king of Portugal = Maud/Matilda, Countess of Savoy
…
Michael Ruark 
Very interesting
After two years of researching. I can prove in my genealogy this is true. Only buy chance through going over my research, You’re more than welcome to nose into my public ancestry tree. I have traced my line through everything mentioned. Can even list most name in the Christian Bible as well as Hebrew Texts. How far I have fallen.